Specialist desks debate every name — then the system stress-tests its own verdict.
AtlasVector runs a multi-desk debate (an equity desk, a risk desk, a sell-side MD, and an adversarial RED-TEAM) that argues to a calibration-weighted verdict. Then the system runs a self-falsification gate on the consolidated verdict — re-deriving every number, binding every claim, and trying to break it — and returns ship / repair / block. The whole thing is sealed to a tamper-evident chain you can re-derive yourself.
How hard the agent attacks its OWN verdicts: ship/repair/block distribution + falsifications it caught in itself, over the sealed (audit-chained) house-verdict corpus — a self-attacked track record that cannot be retroactively fabricated. Real and labelled-synthetic boards seal to SEPARATE chains, published beside this; the rates above are computed over real boards only.
Rates are shares of the 80 REAL sealed boards the gate graded. 0 synthetic boards (offline council — its degenerate gate emits one outcome by construction) are excluded, as are 0 real boards nothing could grade.
Ship-rate 0% — 0 of 80 real graded boards; every board in this sample landed the same way.
the gate is live — the first cleared verdicts are pending
All 80 sealed boards were graded by gate revision 3.
80 sealed boards carry a gate outcome, 0 sealed before the gate recorded one, and 0 are real boards this read drops for a desk stance the transcript does not back. Every sealed board falls in exactly one of the three; the rates published here divide by the real graded boards alone — which, on this corpus, are exactly the boards carrying a gate outcome.
SEPARATE CHAINS Sealed house-verdict boards by chain. 80 real boards on the main chain; 0 labelled-synthetic boards on the separate synthetic chain, which links to its own tail and never lengthens the main one. 80 + 0 + 0 = 80 boards, the whole sealed corpus. A board is counted only where a sealed board row backs the seal event (its audit root is that event's chain hash), so this breakdown adds up to the population it breaks down and to nothing else. main chain tip d1180c9a5c03…
How these numbers are computed — the grading gate, and the two conviction scales
Revision 3 refuses to SHIP a board nothing could grade: with no desk sentence bound to a recorded evidence channel the verdict is UNGRADED, and faithfulness is null rather than a 1.00 scored off the board's own summary sentence. It keeps revision 2's probes — a desk sentence graded against the evidence channel the transcript actually recorded (absent channel = unverified, never a catch), each desk's transcript stance cross-checked against its scored row (a turn that spoke without a comparable stance says so), and a board whose transcript carries no desk turns refused. Rows sealed before this stamp existed carry no revision and are reported as unstamped.
Agreement was divided by the whole panel, which charged abstention a second time after the net score had already priced it. Retired 2026-08; the house no longer stands behind figures on this scale, and they are not comparable to current ones.
Agreement is computed among the desks that took a direction; how much of the panel took one at all ships separately as participation. This is the rule the house currently stands behind. AUTHORED 2026-08-13, before every board in the graded record; it has itself priced all 14 graded boards forward, and none was sealed under the retired rule.
The conviction-scale split covers all 80 real-labelled sealed boards — the same population the published rates run on.
Did the calls work?
marked AS OF 2026-09-04ACCUMULATING Accumulating — 10 independent calls graded (14 sealed boards) across 3 entry sessions, worth 2.63 effective observations once same-session calls are discounted for sharing a tape. A hit rate needs 20 of each, so it is withheld; the per-call returns below are real.
7 of 10 graded calls landed inside one standard deviation of their own excess series over their own window — an outcome that size is a direction that landed, not a magnitude that distinguishes skill from the tape.
POLICY CHOICE The breadth multiplier is LINEAR BY POLICY CHOICE. The exponent was set to 1 because that reproduces a prior number — the 0.5% caps the superseded denominator happened to produce for the thin boards — and NO evidence supports linearity over a square, a square root or a step. It was authored 2026-08-14, 46 days after the 2026-06-29 session on which every call then graded had been entered — with those outcomes already visible to the author.
- 3 of 7 long calls landed, mean excess earned +0.49% — WITHHELD as a rate: this slice carries 2.88 effective observations of the 5 required — 7 calls spread over 3 entry sessions.
- 2 of 3 short calls landed, mean excess earned −1.28% — WITHHELD as a rate: this slice carries 3 independent calls of the 5 required and 1.8 effective observations of the 5 required — 3 calls spread over 2 entry sessions.
- The boldest call in the corpus, on the current rule — TSLA short at 41/100 — landed, +0.09% to the call.
- The 12 names the desks declined and did not call moved 2.36% mean absolute excess; the 10 names they did call moved 2.31% on the same basis. Both are unsigned magnitudes: reading either as a gain won or forgone would assume the direction was called right, and the rate that would license that assumption is withheld below the sample floor. The largest single move among them was META at +7.35%. An abstention is counted, never graded: it is not a miss.
- 8 names (NVDA, MSFT, TSLA, GOOGL, MSFT, META, NVDA, TSLA) had boards take no direction while OTHER boards called the same name on the same session. The house called those names, so they are graded in the call ledger and excluded from the abstentions — one market move may carry one label, not two.
- -0.04% is the arithmetic mean of 10 realized call returns, not an expected return: they disperse 3.48pp about it, the median call is -0.08%, and dropping META alone moves it to +0.86%. On 2.63 effective observations no interval can be placed around it, so reading it as an expected return is withheld on the same floor that withholds the hit rate.
- Does conviction track outcome? Not yet measurable — the corpus carries 10 independent calls of the 20 required and 2.63 effective observations of the 20 required — 10 calls spread over 3 entry sessions; every call so far landed in conviction buckets 0-24, 25-49 — monotonicity is UNMEASURED, which is not the same as absent. Below the floor this is a NOT-MEASURABLE state, not a negative finding: no claim is made in either direction.
LOOK-AHEAD The rule the house stands behind was authored on 2026-08-13, before every board in the graded record: all 14 graded boards were sealed on or after that day, on 3 entry sessions, and priced by this rule before their outcomes existed. No conviction in this record was produced by a rule that could see the outcomes it is being judged on.
How this is graded, and what is excluded
Every sealed board with a directional stance, graded on the realized EXCESS return of its name vs the benchmark (a long call in a rising market is beta, not a call). The entry is a close printed AFTER the seal — never one that already existed when the board was sealed — and both legs are read on the same entry and mark sessions. Boards on the same name entered on the same session are ONE call, and calls entered on the same session are discounted for sharing one tape: a rate needs both enough independent calls and enough EFFECTIVE observations, and it ships with a Wilson interval computed on the effective count and only as many decimals as that sample supports. Conviction buckets are cut on the figure re-derived from each row's own sealed desk stances under the rule the house stands behind today, with the sealed figure published beside it. Synthetic boards never enter and are counted as a stated exclusion, as is any name with no usable price history. This measures the desks' calls — it is separate from the self-falsification record, and it is published whichever way it comes out.
Independence. 14 sealed directional boards resolve to 10 independent calls (boards on the same name entered on the same session are ONE call), spread over 3 entry sessions and worth 2.63 effective observations. Calls entered on one session share one tape, so every rate below is floored on the EFFECTIVE count, not the call count. Calls entered on the same session are treated as perfectly correlated (they share one tape). That is the worst case, so the true effective count lies between this figure and the nominal call count: the discount can only under-claim. Computed as effective observations = 1 / Σ(share of calls per entry session)² — the Kish count for a size-weighted rate.
Conviction basis. Calibration is graded on the conviction RE-DERIVED from each sealed row's own desk stances under the rule the house stands behind today, not on the figure the row was sealed under — grading a rule the house has superseded would measure nothing anyone is standing behind. The sealed figure ships beside it, and the record counts how many rows moved (superseded), already agreed (current), or reconcile to neither rule (unreconciled). Sealed bytes are re-read and re-labeled, never rewritten.
The conviction scale. Revision 2 divides agreement by the desks ELIGIBLE to agree, not by the whole panel — abstention is priced once, in the net score, instead of twice — and publishes participation beside the figure instead of folding it in. Revision 1 figures are not comparable to revision 2 figures and are never mixed into one rate. A board whose revision cannot be determined from its stamp or its own sealed desk stances is reported unreconciled, not assigned one. Revision 2 was AUTHORED 2026-08-13, before every board in the graded record; it has itself priced all 14 graded boards forward, and 0 of 14 graded boards are superseded rows re-derived at the read. Computed as |net score| x (desks on side / desks eligible to agree) x mean on-side calibration weight.
Board and call. A call is every sealed board on this name entered on the same session, counted once. Its conviction is the arithmetic mean of those boards' current-rule figures — and so is the sealed figure printed beside it — so neither will equal any single board's number. The boards themselves are published unchanged. A call over a single board carries that board's figure exactly and is marked with nothing.
Names not called. Boards that took no direction on names the house did not otherwise call that session. Counted, never graded — an abstention is not a miss. The ledger is DISJOINT from the calls on the same (name, entry session) key: a neutral board on a name other boards called is booked to the call ledger only, so one market move never carries two labels; those names are listed as also-called rather than dropped. The mean is over INDEPENDENT abstentions (one name, one session = one abstention), the same denominator the hit rate uses, and the per-board figure ships beside it. It is a mean ABSOLUTE move — a magnitude, not a forgone gain — over a handful of correlated names, so it carries no interval and is never set against a signed return.
One basis. how far the names moved against the benchmark, unsigned — a magnitude, not a gain. Both sides are computed on ONE measure — mean absolute excess return vs the same benchmark over the same window. This record previously set the abstentions' mean ABSOLUTE move against the calls' mean SIGNED return and called the difference a cost; that comparison implies a direction accuracy of 1.0, which is precisely the figure this panel withholds. No cost is claimed here, and no gain is attributed to a move nobody positioned for.
Sized through the gate. Each call is sized through the SAME capital gate the enforcement path runs: the conviction-band cap scaled by the board's panel participation, averaged across the boards in the call. No falsification escalation and no calibration trim is applied — those need live state this record does not re-create, so the permitted size here is an UPPER bound on what the gate would have allowed. The breadth multiplier is a POLICY CHOICE, stated in full beside this figure; a different curve would move the weighted figure and nothing in this record can say which curve is right.
Breadth is policy, not a measurement. The breadth multiplier is LINEAR BY POLICY CHOICE. A 1-of-4 board is permitted exactly a quarter of what a 4-of-4 board is permitted at the same conviction because the rate is applied to the first power — not because anything measured that a quarter is right. A square, a square root or a step would all be defensible; calibrating between them needs realized outcomes bucketed by participation, and the graded record stands at 10 independent calls on 3 entry sessions. Treat the curve as policy, not as a finding. Applied as permitted = the conviction band cap x the share of the panel that took a direction.
Where the exponent came from. Chosen for continuity — it returns the thin boards to the caps they carried under the superseded conviction denominator. Calibrated to reproduce the caps the superseded whole-panel conviction denominator produced for the three 1-of-4 boards (0.5% of book).
Observation, not expectation. A rate is an inference and is withheld below the floor. The mean of the realized returns is an OBSERVATION, and every return it averages is published per call in this same record — so withholding the average would not take it out of circulation, it would hand a reader an unqualified figure computed in their own head with none of this beside it. What is withheld is the EXPECTATION reading: no interval is printed until the effective observation count clears the floor the hit rate clears, and until it does, the dispersion, the median and the leave-one-out mean ARE the qualification the figure ships with. Dispersion here is across the calls; the noise scale measures each call against its own window, and the two answer different questions.
The scale. the standard deviation of this call's daily excess return over its own graded window, scaled up to the length of that window. Sigma is measured on the SAME bars the return is measured on — realized, not modelled, not annualized from elsewhere. It is a scale for reading one return, never a significance test: 10 calls on 3 entry sessions cannot support one.
The floor. At the observed accrual (1 independent calls and 0.3 entry sessions per day) the floor is at least 57 days away — a LOWER bound, because effective observations can sit below the entry-session count.Effective observations can never exceed entry sessions, so clearing the 20-effective floor requires at least 20 distinct entry sessions. Any projection here is therefore a LOWER bound on the time to a publishable rate.
- conviction 0-24 — 3 of 6 right, mean excess +0.66%, rate withheld — this slice carries 3 effective observations of the 5 required — 6 calls spread over 3 entry sessions
- conviction 25-49 — 2 of 4 right, mean excess −1.09%, rate withheld — this slice carries 4 independent calls of the 5 required and 1.6 effective observations of the 5 required — 4 calls spread over 2 entry sessions
- excluded — TSLA: no close has printed since the seal — the window has not been observed yet
- excluded — NVDA: no close has printed since the seal — the window has not been observed yet
- excluded — AVGO: no close has printed since the seal — the window has not been observed yet
- excluded — TSLA: no close has printed since the seal — the window has not been observed yet
- excluded — NVDA: no close has printed since the seal — the window has not been observed yet
- excluded — AAPL: no close has printed since the seal — the window has not been observed yet
- excluded — AVGO: no close has printed since the seal — the window has not been observed yet
- excluded — AAPL: no close has printed since the seal — the window has not been observed yet
marked 2026-09-04 · benchmark SPY · first close printed strictly after the seal instant — never a price that existed when the board was sealed
- Mark Rule
- the latest session BOTH the name and the benchmark have finished — finished meaning the tape has stopped printing for it (20:00 New York), not merely that the bell has rung, because a day print keeps absorbing late trades after the close. A session still trading is never marked, so two reads inside one session return the same figures: a close does not move
- Return Rule
- excess = name return − benchmark return over the same sessions; a short is right when the excess is negative
- Sample Rule
- rates are computed over independent calls, keyed by (name, entry session)
- Abstention Rule
- the abstention ledger is DISJOINT from the call ledger on that same key — a neutral board on a name other boards called that session belongs to the calls, and is listed as also-called rather than counted twice
- Comparison Rule
- abstained and called names are compared only on ONE basis (mean ABSOLUTE excess). A magnitude is never set against a signed return and never called a cost: that would assert a direction accuracy this record withholds
- Independence Rule
- a rate needs 20 independent calls AND 20 effective observations — calls entered on one session share one tape and are discounted for it, so twenty names on one day never clear the floor
- Interval Rule
- every published rate carries a 95% Wilson score interval computed on the effective observation count; computing it on the nominal count would narrow the band by exactly the design effect
- Precision Rule
- a rate is printed to the decimals its sample supports (a 20-observation rate resolves to 5 percentage points, so it prints to whole percent) — hits and n always ship, so the exact ratio is recoverable
- Conviction Rule
- conviction buckets are cut on the figure RE-DERIVED from each row's own sealed desk stances under the rule the house stands behind today, never on a superseded sealed figure; the sealed figure ships beside it
- Sizing Rule
- the weighted return sizes each call through the capital gate — conviction-band cap x panel participation — and the equal-weight figure it is set against is recomputed over the SAME sized calls, never over a larger set
- Noise Rule
- every call carries the realized sigma of its own daily excess series over its own window; a return inside one sigma is a direction that landed, and is reported as such rather than as a magnitude
- Mean Rule
- the mean call return carries the same discipline as a rate: its cross-sectional dispersion, its median and the mean without the single call that moves it most all ship beside it, and reading it as an EXPECTED return is withheld until the effective observation count clears the same 20 floor the hit rate clears
- Split guard
- a session move above 1.8x or below 0.55x inside the window excludes the name — unadjusted bars would read a split as a return
VERDICT: constructive (long-biased)
- Fundamentals intact: AMZN (XNAS, retail/AWS) TTM rev growth +15.77% YoY, net margin 17.44%, ROIC 24.19%, D/E 0.22 — top-quartile quality vs peer set. EPS beats in 3 of last 4 prints (Q2'26 $1.97 vs $1.86 est; get_earnings).
- AWS accelerating: AWS Q2'26 +37% YoY at 39% op margin per Zacks 2026-09-01; Saudi region + HUMAIN 50MW AI capacity extend the runway.
- Tape constructive: last 254.92, +19.6% over 180d, off 287.20 52w high (-10%); trading above 200d drift zone (get_candles/get_quote, 2026-09-02).
- Valuation stretched on FCF: EV/FCF 381.66 (worst in peer group) — capex intensity ($200B AI infra plan) is the pressure point; P/E TTM 21.1 remains reasonable.
- What breaks it: AWS growth decel below ~25% at Oct-28 print; capex without matching AWS/ad monetization; retail margin compression; regulatory/FTC escalation. Earnings 2026-10-28 amc is the binary.
I'll pull the core data before opening.
VERDICT: reconsider (RED-TEAM opening — the bull case has real cracks)
- Tape is rolling over, not accumulating. AMZN -6.81% over the last 77 sessions (273.55 → 254.92, as-of 2026-09-02, get_candles D), just printed 254.83 open / 251.93 low yesterday — lower highs since the 284.02 range top. Momentum favors sellers, not dip-buyers.
- Valuation is not cheap into a capex wall. 22.8x forward P/E cited (Zacks, 2026-09-01) against reported $200B AI capex plan (Motley Fool, 2026-09-01). Q4'25 and Q1'26 EPS both MISSED ($1.61 vs $1.67 est) — the "AWS accelerates forever" narrative already cracked twice. Only Q2'26 beat ($1.97 vs $1.86).
- Concentration + seasonality risk. Mag7 = 34% of S&P, September avg -1.1% since 1928 (Motley Fool, 2026-09-01). AMZN is a beta-to-the-crowd trade here, not idiosyncratic alpha.
- What breaks a bear stance: reclaim of 266–268 (prior support-turned-resistance) on volume, OR AWS growth reaccelerating above the 37% Q2 print into the 2026-10-28 AMC report (56 days out — no K1 trigger).
- Lower-variance alternative: wait for the Oct 28 print, or express via AWS-levered names rather than the mothership carrying retail drag.
No hard kill rule triggered (earnings 56d out, no account data to check K2/K4, no confidence claim to check K3, facts check out — no K5).
Public scope — no account behind this consult, so I'm assessing AMZN's own risk profile, not a book.
VERDICT: neutral-with-caution
- AMZN last 255.37, +0.18% intraday (as_of 2026-09-02T16:55Z, get_quote) — lagging SPY +0.43% and sector proxy XLY +0.32%; relative weakness on an up-tape is a mild risk flag, not a break.
- Intraday range 253.40–256.24 (~1.1%) is orderly; no gap risk signal in today's tape.
- Single-name concentration a full AMZN position WOULD carry: mega-cap with dual cyclical (retail/ads) + secular (AWS) exposure — beta typically >1 vs SPY, so sizing above ~15–20% of a book would dominate factor risk. Position-level concentration cannot be evaluated here (no account).
- What breaks a constructive house view: AWS growth deceleration below ~15% YoY, retail margin give-back, or a break of the multi-week base (reference level ~248 — desk's own marker, not an instruction).
- Data gaps: realized 20d vol, max DD, options-implied move not available for this name right now.
I'll frame AMZN with flow, ownership, filings, and sector context before opening.
VERDICT: hold — constructive core, but positioning is not clean
Positioning read: Consumer Discretionary (XLY) sits in the LAGGING quadrant (RS 97.1, momentum -141 bps, flow -0.43 as of 2026-09-02) — AMZN's tape backdrop is unfriendly at the sector level. Fund-holder concentration data not available for this name right now (institutional holders endpoint gated).
Flow read: Insider tape is one-sided distribution — 30d net -$363.5M across 7 sellers, headlined by Bezos -$346M (2026-08-03) and a cluster of 7 insiders selling Aug 3–24. 365d: -$456M net, zero insider buys. Multiple Form-4s + Rule 144s filed 8/21–8/27 corroborate.
Desk stance: hold into the Oct 28 print (AMC, EPS est $1.99, rev est $206.4B, 56d out). Q2 beat ($1.97 vs $1.86) argues for patience; the desk would be a buyer into weakness, not a chaser at $255.
What breaks it: XLY moving to leading + AWS reacceleration on the Oct print → escalate to accumulate. Insider selling extending post-earnings, or an XLY breakdown with AMZN losing the $240 shelf → shift to distribute.
I'll pull fundamentals, earnings, and valuation comps before cross-examining.
VERDICT: neutral — constructive fundamentals, but valuation + capex overhang argue against chasing here.
Cross-exam of peers:
- RED-TEAM overstates "narrative crack." Q4'25 and Q1'26 EPS misses were $0.06 each — not thesis-breaking. Q3'25 beat +21%, Q2'26 beat +6%. Two-of-four beats with rising estimate ramp ($1.61 → $1.99 for Q3'26) is a normalizing setup, not a crack.
- SELL-SIDE-MD's flow read is the strongest signal. -$456M net insider selling / zero buys / 365d (get_insider_transactions per peer) — that's real and one-sided.
- RISK missed the fundamentals quality gap. AMZN net margin 17.44% ranks #1 vs peers ex-EBAY, ROIC 24.19% (rank 0.94), rev growth 15.77% YoY, D/E 0.22. This is not a broken franchise.
- Nobody flagged the valuation trap: EV/FCF 381.6x — an outlier vs peer median ~25x. That's the $200B capex wall showing up in the multiple; FCF conversion is the swing factor into Oct 28 (56d out).
What breaks it: AWS growth <15% or FCF guide-down on 2026-10-28 → distribute. AWS reaccel + capex efficiency signal → accumulate.
VERDICT: reconsider
No hard-kill trigger fires: earnings 2026-10-28 is 56 days out — K1 clear. K2/K4 require an account, not evaluable — noted, not assumed passed. K3: peer confidences are 55–65, all cite invalidation levels. K5: peer facts I could verify check out (AMZN 255.42, XLY tape, Q2 EPS $1.97 vs $1.86, next print 2026-10-28 amc — get_quote/get_earnings).
Where peers are soft:
- EQUITY overstates the trend. AMZN is DOWN from 284.02 → 254.92 over the last ~7 weeks (-10.2%, get_candles 60d). The "+19.6% 180d" framing hides an active lower-highs sequence; last 4 sessions closed 266→260→260→255. Momentum is negative, not "constructive."
- SELL-SIDE flow read is the strongest signal and EQUITY ignores it. -$363.5M insider distribution in 30d with zero buys, into a name +15% rev growth — that is not what accumulation looks like ahead of an Oct print.
- RISK's "orderly" tape misses the sector. XLY lagging quadrant + AMZN failing to participate in SPY's +0.43% up-tape = distribution character.
Invalidation to watch: break of ~248 shelf on volume, or XLY relative-strength breakdown → short bias. Reclaim of 267 (20d pivot) on AWS reaccel headline → long survives.
Lower-variance alternative: wait for the Oct-28 print or fade rallies into 267–272 rather than chase 255.
Public scope: no account, book, or venue behind this consult — position/exposure/K-rule checks that need an account cannot be evaluated. I'll assess AMZN's own risk profile.
VERDICT: caution (neutral) — name-level risk is manageable but not benign into a binary catalyst
- Tape/vol: AMZN 255.44, +0.20% (2026-09-02 16:55Z, get_quote). Peers cite -6.81% over 77 sessions and lower highs from 284 — realized drawdown ~10% off the 287.20 52w high is normal-course, not a stress event, but momentum is negative.
- Where EQUITY is thin: they underweight the capex-vs-FCF gap (EV/FCF 381.66 is a real risk multiple, not a footnote) and lean on AWS acceleration through a binary print 56d out.
- Where SELL-SIDE is thin: XLY at 114.96 +0.32% is not confirming a "lagging sector breakdown" today; the flow read is directionally right but the sector-breakdown risk is not live yet.
- Where RED-TEAM overreaches: two EPS misses were pre-Q2 beat; "Mag7 concentration" is index risk, not AMZN idiosyncratic risk.
- Concentration hypothetical: a full sleeve in AMZN would inherit sector beta plus Oct-28 AMC binary — sizing should assume 8–12% single-day gap risk.
- What breaks it: loss of $240 shelf, AWS growth <25% on Oct-28, or XLY confirming lagging quadrant with a break.
I'll pull positioning, flow, and filings data to form an independent view.
VERDICT: hold / not_actionable into print
Positioning read: XLY is lagging (quadrant=lagging, momentum -141 bps, RS 97.1 vs SPY, as-of 2026-09-02, get_sector_rotation) — AMZN's sector is not receiving flow. Equity peer's "constructive tape" understates this.
Flow read: Insider distribution is heavy and clustering. 30d net insider sells -$363.5M across 7 unique sellers — a bona fide sell-cluster signal. Bezos -$346M on 2026-08-03; Jassy net -$27M through 2026-08-21; Herrington, Garman, Olsavsky, Zapolsky, Reynolds all trimming at $257–260. Zero insider buys in 365d. Red-team's caution is validated; equity peer omitted this entirely.
Filings: 8× Form 4 + 7× Form 144 filed Aug 21–27 — a coordinated 10b5-1 selling window ahead of the 2026-10-28 amc print. Nothing else material.
Data gap: 13F institutional holders not available for this name right now, so smart-money-fund tilt is uncalled.
Desk stance: the desk favors patience — sector lagging + heaviest insider cluster of the year + binary print in 56d argues against chasing here. What breaks it: XLY re-leads on volume, or AWS reaccelerates >37% at Oct-28.